Ivan is a young man who fled Russia not to be enlisted in the Russian army and
also to flee the threats against his life because of his dual origin, Russian andUkrainian. Interview by the solidarity initiative which Olga Taratutaparticipates in her reception. ---- Olga: Hello Ivan ---- Ivan: Hello Olga. Myname is Ivan, I am a 24 year old young man. I live in Moscow, where I live withmy mother who is Russian. I am of Russian nationality, although my father isUkrainian and lives in kyiv. I am a humanities student. ---- Olga: How did youlearn about the start of the war in Ukraine? ---- Ivan: I was traveling in Europewith my boyfriend, with a Schengen tourist visa. He returned directly to Russia.I understood, given my personal situation, that the situation could becomplicated for me. I enrolled in a university in the European country where Iwas then to be able to benefit from a long-term "student" visa and try to build afuture for myself far from the madness of war. Already I couldn't see myselfbeing able to set foot in Russia again. However, to benefit from this visa, I hadto returnin Russia to officially apply for a student visa at the embassy of the country inquestion in Moscow. At that time, the embassies were not closed, and everyone waspretending torespect a certain "formality". I therefore returned to do the requiredadministrative procedures. However, when I returned, I immediately understoodthat it was not going to be easy. In addition, on my phone, I started receivingvery explicit death threats from complete strangers, due both to my Ukrainianpaternal origin and also to the fact that I am homosexual.How did these people get my phone number and information about me? I don'tknow... Maybe through the Military Recruitment Center? You should know that inRussia military service is compulsory for all young men and that from the age of18, you must go to register at the Recruitment Center in your neighborhood or city.Olga: What was your reaction to Putin's announcement of the mobilization?Ivan: When Putin announced the mobilization, I understood that I was in greatdanger, because the Russian army needs cannon fodder. The administrativeprocedures for my student visa were blocked anyway. So I decided to run away. Asmy Schengen tourist visa was still valid, I left for Azerbaijan to then joinEurope. I had read in the media, especially social media, that Germany said itwelcomed Russians fleeing the army, so I chose to go to this country even thoughmy visa had been granted by France.Olga: how were you received in Germany?Ivan: It was a big disappointment. I was immediately made to feel that I was notwelcome, contrary to what is proclaimed everywhere. When I got off the plane, Iwent to see the immigration services to file an asylum application. Ironically, Iwas made to understand that if I had Ukrainian nationality (I could have appliedfor it since my father is Ukrainian, but I never applied, because for menationality does not really importance, it is only an administrative formality) Iwould have hadimmediate refugee status. But as a Russian, I bothered them more than anythingelse... They then immediately took me to an Administrative Detention Center (CRA)which is located within the airport. This center is in a "customs free" zone soofficially it is not German territory, it is a kind of "no mans land". In fact,it is above all a prison.The German cops were very cold, very "administrative" in their dealings with thedetainees. I was almost the only European, all the others were refugees fromSudan, Turkey, Afghanistan. I havenoted that the police behaved racistly in the sense that they did not treat me asharshly as other refugees. This made me sad, because I felt solidarity with myother comrades in misfortune. Otherwise, you should also know that this prison ismanaged by the German authorities as a "hotel": if you have the financial means,you must pay for your stay: 135 euros per night! A prison at the price of a 3star!!! As they had seized the cash I had on me, they just had to helpthemselves! So they took 4,000 euros from me for the month I spent in the centre,which is more than half of my savings!Olga: how did you end up in FranceIvan: after several weeks, they explained to me that they would not grant measylum, because under the Dublin procedure, I would have had to file it inFrance, the country that issued my visa. So they were going to deport me to France.And in addition, I was banned from German territory for at least 30 days for nothaving respected the rules of entry into the territory!!! After a month, theytold me that they had reached an agreement with the French authorities and that Iwould be expelled immediately, so I had to be ready to leave at any time! Theyasked me if I knew anyone in France who could take me in, but I didn't knowanyone. I informed my mother by telephone, who made her network of friends work.Finally, she found me a person who agreed to say that she would be my referent onthe spot. On D-Day, the German border police came to pick me up without notice totake me on a plane, telling me that I would be expected when I arrived in France.Arrival at destination, in the airport closest to the place of residence of thecontact provided by my mother, in fact no one was waiting for me. Neither thecontact of my mother who had not been informed, nor the border police. An airlinesteward told me where to report. Arrived at the police station, they looked atme, surprised, not understanding who I was or what I was doing there. Eventually,after rummaging through their computers, they finally found the message from theGermans informing them of my arrival. They told me that I could leave, since Istill had a valid tourist visa anyway. And they gave me the address where to goto file an asylum application.Olga: What happened next?Ivan: Finally, I was able to reach my mother's contact. A very nice but very oldperson. I knew I wouldn't be able to stay with her for long. Through anassociation in Germany helping deserters, with whom I was already in contact whenI was imprisoned in the CRA, I had contactswith various associations in France, including Olga Taratuta.Finally, someone generously offered to temporarily accommodate me in the Parisregion, where I was able to formally file an asylum application.Applying for asylum is a real obstacle course: you have to make appointments withmultiple services and administrations, standing in endless queues during whichthe police mistreat you. And me again, I'm lucky because being European, I cansee that the cops are nicerwith me than with other African or Asian asylum seekers, whom they really treatlike dogs.Once I have finished this series of interviews, I should wait to be fixed on myfate. It may take several months.Olga: how are you surviving during this time?Ivan: I have what's left of my savings, but life is expensive in France. Mymother sends me some money that she transfers via friends who reside in Turkey orelsewhere, to circumvent international banking restrictions. But it is also veryexpensive.And then my mother is not very rich and she has just lost her job. I also makedrawings, maybe I can sell some to earn some money?Olga: how do you see your future in the short and medium term?Ivan: what I already know is that I will never set foot in Russia again. I don'twant to go back there anymore, this country is dead to me. I intend to go to theEuropean university where I registered, because the studies they offer interestme and I think that it can give me opportunities in the future. You should neverlose hope.http://cntaittoulouse.lautre.net/spip.php?article1301_________________________________________A - I N F O S N E W S S E R V I C EBy, For, and About AnarchistsSend news reports to A-infos-en mailing listA-infos-en@ainfos.caSPREAD THE INFORMATION
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